Ways to tech chess to a 7 year old?

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2nd November 2007, 10:55am
#1
by airjustice
petaluma, california United States
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 1

Hi,


I am new to forums and chess.com. I came to this site looking for ideas about how to teach chess to my daughter who is 7. I just bought her a chess set and she's excited about it. I read a few posts and I have a few ideas but am looking for more ideas. If anyone has helpful hints, concepts or links I would appreciate it. 

2nd November 2007, 11:08am
#2
by billwall
Palm Bay, FL United States
Member Since: May 2007
Member Points: 2047
In my experience, show her quick games, short mates, and repeat as White and Black.  She wil learn mating patterns and what to look for and will be able to remember the short traps and miniatures first to keep her interested.  Show her how to develop her pieces in the center and what pieces should be developed first.  Show her good and bad pawn structure (but remember, there are exceptions to when a knight on the rim is dim or avoid doubled or isolated pawns).  Show her how to protect her king and castle early.  You can alternate and show her very simple endgames, like king and pawn vs king or rook and pawn vs pawn or rook or just king to see if she can checkmate efficently.  Too many pieces in the endgame get confusing.
2nd November 2007, 11:21am
#3
by Loomis
Durham, NC United States
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 2285

I don't know what's the best way to teach kids chess, but I've seen several occasions the following paraphrased conversation:

kid: "I thought my opponent would move here and then do this to give me double pawns, so I moved my piece to this square."

coach: "Did you see that moving your piece to this square allows your opponent to take a piece for free?"

kid: "No."

 

Hmmm.. why is this kid so concerned with doubled pawns when he cannot keep his pieces on the board? Show me a game between two players less than 10 years old that was decided because one of them had doubled pawns and I'll show you a future grandmaster. 


2nd November 2007, 11:23am
#4
by mxdplay4
mids UK England
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 697
i saw someone post a link and had a look myself. its a bit basic, but looks alright for children - www.chesskids.com
2nd November 2007, 11:31am
#5
by brewd
Sterling Heights, MI United States
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 18
I agree with billwall regarding the basic mating patterns and explaining the rules of development.  I began teaching my 5 year old daughter how to play using chess puzzles (mate in 1 initially then mate in 2 and gain a piece puzzles) when she was 5.  We also played the "pawn game" wherein all 16 pawns are placed on the board and the goal is to push a pawn to the opposite side of the board.  Simply begin this way, add in order: King, Rook, Bishop, Queen and lastly Knight (not necessarily all on the board at one time at first) and for my daughter it began to make sense within a few months.  We still do 6-12 puzzles each day and I play a few games with her a week and have her play various Chessmaster opponents as well.  She's in tournaments now and doing great!  Good luck to you and your daughter :)
2nd November 2007, 12:28pm
#6
by JackC
Washington, DC United States
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 212
Likeforests once pointed me to Emily's Blog, when I posted a similar post. You may find that also interesting...
2nd November 2007, 01:20pm
#7
by Ricardo_Morro
Bridgeport, CT United States
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 243
The best way to teach a 7-year-old is with another 7-year-old so they can play each other.
2nd November 2007, 01:27pm
#8
by brewd
Sterling Heights, MI United States
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 18
They need some fundamentals first otherwise they'll end up chasing each other around the board or leaving pieces hanging.  I agree that it's a good idea to have kids play kids but some instruction is needed as in any game or sport.
4th November 2007, 10:41am
#9
by Alex_M
Atlanta, Georgia United States
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 251
My dad tought me when I was about 7. He pretty much just kept beating me until I got better, but I realize that may not be the best way to teach chess to a 7-year-old
4th November 2007, 11:36am
#10
by HotFlow
KL, Malaysia Malaysia
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 529

Probably the best I think play against them at your best.  Losing is the best way to learn you remember what your opponent did to you to beat you and it gets added to game.  And ask them afterwards if they wan't to run through the game and for you to explain some little bits to them.  I think that is the best recipe, don't force chess on 7yo they just may not be interested, always ask them along the way.

Once they have lost a few games to you and you have run through a few games with them explaining the basics.  Then let em lose on players of their own age with what they picked up from you they will try and put to practise against their own age group.  Once they win a few games with this new found knowledge the enthusiasm will naturally flow.


4th November 2007, 10:34pm
#11
by chessmates
United Arab Emirates
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 102

Make playing chess fun for the kids. Tell them about the basic rules and let them play.Do not discourage them if they loose. Simple games some endgames etc will hold their interest in this game.

After a few months they would slowly be able to pick out the patterns and sequence of moves. At this stage you could introduce them to chess playing programs or books. Tell them that winning the game is important but not everything in chess. 


4th November 2007, 10:52pm
#12
by RobertABrown
Terrace, BC Canada
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 505

Airjustice,

The idea of starting with pawns and adding pieces, as outlined by Brewed, has worked with me when I've taught classes of kids how to play the game. You may be interested to know that Susan Polgar has published a fairly lengthy method for teaching kids. I contacted her via her blog and obtained one for free.  


5th November 2007, 05:57pm
#13
by JackC
Washington, DC United States
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 212

Yesterday when I was playing online chess, my son sat next to me. I started asking him what would he play next. Then I started pointing him the things that could go wrong with his suggestions. He got very interested and forced me to stay on the game longer than I had planned. At least with my kid, playing others while tagging me and him as one team seems to be working...


5th November 2007, 06:16pm
#14
by Daemon_Panda
Coconut Grove , Fl United States
Member Since: Jun 2007
Member Points: 982
All this advice is great, but I would suggest you buy a Chaturanga set online. It is the oldest know version of chess that has chess-like moves, plus it is simpler. So you kill four birds with one stone. You teach her a history lesson, as well as a simpler version of chess. You also give her a more broad background as well as a piece of history. I'll find out where I got my set if you are interested in buying one.
5th November 2007, 06:40pm
#15
by rweasley
Pennsylvania, USA United States
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 13

My kids like to check out the (slow chess) games online. (They know if I'm looking at the chess board, chess is the only subject of conversation.) There's usually a few teaching moments there.

They also really like their Fritz and Chesster software.

Just keep the lessons short.


23rd February 2008, 11:18am
#16
by lukeyboy_xx
london England
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 4531
Ricardo_Morro wrote: The best way to teach a 7-year-old is with another 7-year-old so they can play each other.

yh good idea


27th February 2008, 06:53pm
#17
by hennedup
Virgina United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 4
RobertABrown wrote:

Airjustice,

The idea of starting with pawns and adding pieces, as outlined by Brewed, has worked with me when I've taught classes of kids how to play the game. You may be interested to know that Susan Polgar has published a fairly lengthy method for teaching kids. I contacted her via her blog and obtained one for free.  


I went to her web site couldnt find the book so I emailed her and one of her reps replied that she only had a kids video for sale. Could you give me some more info about what she gave you like title ect.. thanks for any reply


27th February 2008, 07:06pm
#18
by KillaBeez
Denver, CO United States
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 1897
Just say that chess is a game of war and you already have their attention.  Then, using that same theme, teach them the "code of combat" (rules of chess)  Then teach them battle strategy.  That way it keeps their attention span long enough for you to teach them.
27th February 2008, 07:23pm
#19
by BrainiacBrandon
Northwest Indiana United States
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 51
Maybe a 14 year old, another kid, can give the best advice. Use analogies and make it exciting. Make some obvious mistakes for her so she can get excited about it. Even if she is already excited, it should excite her more. Don't try to teach mating patterns and such, it is too complicated for me and I am a 4.0 GPA Honors student 8th grader who was already a Congressman's special guest speaker at a very important meeting (I can't help but brag). If you do that stuff, you just lose her intrest; that is the last thing you want to do. You do want to show her the fool's mate, she will probably think it is cool and funny how quickly a game can end, as I did. One of the first thing you will probably want to teach her is how to use the knight well. Many young players think it is the "neatest" piece on the board, as it is the only peace that can jump pieces. If I think of more, I am sure I'll tell you. Hope I can be of assistance.Smile 
27th February 2008, 07:46pm
#20
by Escapest_Pawn
MISSOULA,MT United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 536

I was taught by my father when I was 6 and I have taught several children.

Young kids tend to turn generalities into absolutes. 

"Castle early"

"Develop quickly"

"Don't move a piece more than once in the opening"

and so forth, all become dangerous absolutes.

Also, the hardest thing to teach a child is that ones oponent will usually make the best move rather than the worse.  You will find that when they play against each other, each game will have its own rules.  When I was 11, I played a classmate who asked me if he could take one of his own pieces off the board.  I looked at it and said all right.  Later I asked him why he did that and he said that he had something in mind but I didn't do the "right thing". 

My main point is that there are emotional maturity elements that are beyaond the scope of instruction.  They will mature into the game.  Let them "scribble" with each other and have fun.  When you actually give them a lesson, stick with very vague stuff like "try to get your pieces to work together".  When playing "against" them, say "I am now going to make a mistake, and do not move until you are sure you see it" and keep your mistake obvious and something that illustrates the point you are teaching them.


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