Groups, Teams, Clans, or Clubs?

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30th July 2008, 03:29pm
#1
by erik
Mountain View, CA United States
Member Since: May 2007
Member Points: 6985

We're getting closer to launching the play between "groups". But is "group" really the right word? Team is the right word. But what about teams that don't play chess - those are groups :(

So there is word confusion. We are taking our current "Groups" and giving them the ability to play one another. But what should that be called? Teams? Clans? Clubs? Or just leave it as groups? Or call them Teams & Groups, with the distinction being that they are exactly the same except that TEAMS play?

Ugh. This is almost as bad as trying to come up with a word for Turn-based Correspondence Asynchronous Email Chess :)

Help?

30th July 2008, 03:35pm
#2
by Sharukin
England
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 879

Leave it as is. We know what a group is on chess.com, just as some of know what a clan is on another chess site. Simplicity is usually the best answer I find.

30th July 2008, 03:38pm
#3
by Masterful_Forfeit
Saskatoon Canada
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 328

I say leave it as 'group' when they're not in a game, and change it to 'team' when they're in a game.

 

And YESSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!

30th July 2008, 03:38pm
#4
by yoshtodd
Hawaii United States
Member Since: Jun 2008
Member Points: 127

Yeah I would say just leave it as group.

30th July 2008, 03:45pm
#5
by JFercan
Toronto - Canada Colombia
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 487

I agree with Sharukin and yoshtodd.  Groups is good enough, no need to create confusion.

30th July 2008, 03:51pm
#6
by Rael
Calgary, Alberta Canada
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 3545

Is this close enough to implementation as that we should start creating and forming these team-groups? If so, I'll make one and start recruiting.

30th July 2008, 04:05pm
#7
by Locke
Calgary Canada
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 291

Cabals? Phalanxes?

Anyway, I prefer the consideration of having groups that participate in matches carry the denomination "team", as there are countless groups that would have no intention of participating in such a match, as their binding collagen is other than simply chess. (e.g. Chess History, Writer's Group)

30th July 2008, 04:07pm
#8
by Rael
Calgary, Alberta Canada
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 3545

Locke, we can form some kind of Canadian Cabal with the Grobe.

And then include the Irish. And the Portugese. In our Canadian Cabal.

Yes.

30th July 2008, 04:10pm
#9
by Rael
Calgary, Alberta Canada
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 3545

Oh, and we'll definitely need ih8sens if we're going to win any games.

Absurd and exiledcanuck would also be quite useful.

Timmaylivinali... um... he can come along for comic relief.

30th July 2008, 04:16pm
#10
by Locke
Calgary Canada
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 291

"The Portugese Phalanx"

"The French Faction"

"The German Genus"

"The Hungarian Herd"

"The Spanish Sect"

Sadly, I couldn't come up with anything for the Irish.

30th July 2008, 04:22pm
#11
by Masterful_Forfeit
Saskatoon Canada
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 328

The Irate Irish

30th July 2008, 04:32pm
#12
by malko
Mexico City Mexico
Member Since: Jun 2007
Member Points: 324

I agree with Masterful_forteit. The group becomes a team when it is playing. I wasn't sure about the world "clan", so  I looked it up on the Merriam-Webster Dictionary:

Clan. A group (as in the Scottish Highlands) made up of households whose heads claim descent from a common ancestor.

I think "team" is better, it's simpler.

30th July 2008, 04:33pm
#13
by Monado
Massachusetts United States
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 96

I'de say just leave it as "group." I think it would be easily understood that some groups participate in games as a team, while some other groups are for only social reasons.

Also, I have to find myself a fitting group!

30th July 2008, 04:34pm
#14
by Rael
Calgary, Alberta Canada
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 3545

Aha! And another Canadian for the ranks! I'm adding you to the list, Masterful.

Well, with Pistoleer and Evil_Homer we'd have the Inebriated Irish.

But for our friend Aoife LOB, we'd have the Insane Irish.

30th July 2008, 04:53pm
#15
by Masterful_Forfeit
Saskatoon Canada
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 328

Sounds good, Rael, assuming I'd be allowed to play for more than one team at once.

I'm hoping the Live Chess Moderators will get together and 'exercise our authority' over all the other teams.

30th July 2008, 04:58pm
#16
by dawgface420
New Mexico United States
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 105

Cliques now? What's happening to this site?

30th July 2008, 05:12pm
#17
by Locke
Calgary Canada
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 291

Nationalism.

30th July 2008, 06:54pm
#18
by natrix
Southern Florida United States
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 322

A Chess Club is the most commonly used term for a group of people who play chess together, & generally when they play against a different group of chess players they are playing against a rival Chess Club.

30th July 2008, 07:33pm
#19
by leggy
Pasadena, Newfoundland Canada
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 87

I want in on the Canadian Cabal!

30th July 2008, 07:56pm
#20
by Patzer24
United States
Member Since: Jun 2007
Member Points: 8557

Anything but Clan, I do not think that is the right choice as in some historical references it has a negative meaning.

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