do not do this opening- major trap

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18th August 2008, 09:48am
#1
by shuttlechess92
California United States
Member Since: Jul 2008
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    hi.  I was just going through one of my friends games, and I spotted this opening play out: 1.e4  e5    2. Nf3   f6??.   Although the game did not go this path, I decided to play this out to warn against weakening the king's side. 

This involves a knight sacrifice which if taken leads to mate, but if ignored just leads to a lost pawn but a damaged center, nonetheless.

Feel free to ask about any variations

 

Shuttlechess92

18th August 2008, 09:59am
#2
by TheMoonwalker
Near Oslo, Norway
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 323

Ok, I won't do it :)

18th August 2008, 09:59am
#3
by shuttlechess92
California United States
Member Since: Jul 2008
Member Points: 887

lol, yes, that would be a good idea.

18th August 2008, 10:10am
#4
by Askham
Yorkshire England
Member Since: May 2008
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Often, black playes 6 ... d5, blocking the bishop's check and taking away f5 from the white queen. I'm sure mate still follows, as I've played against this a lot (the opening with ... f6 is called the Damiano Opening) and nearly always won.

18th August 2008, 10:15am
#5
by BirdBrain
KY United States
Member Since: Apr 2008
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Well, you can still do it if you want.  Whoever said you can't have fun playing inferior chess positions?  Play e4 e5 Nf3 f6 Nxe5 Qe7...and have fun.

18th August 2008, 10:16am
#6
by shuttlechess92
California United States
Member Since: Jul 2008
Member Points: 887

6...d5 leads to Bxd5 with almost an identical mating series but of different order, perhaps 8. d4 is to come, and with black's king still out in the open, black is still in big trouble.

18th August 2008, 07:09pm
#7
by trentthechessnut
Picton, NSW Australia
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 162

Poor Damiano....

He refuted tha opening in the 17/18th Century and than had his name attached to it!

18th August 2008, 07:41pm
#8
by cjts0622
baguio Philippines
Member Since: Aug 2008
Member Points: 2

amazing I wont do it. Can I add you as a friend

18th August 2008, 08:14pm
#9
by shuttlechess92
California United States
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yes cjts. lol trenthechessnut

18th August 2008, 08:26pm
#10
by chqm8
Wellington New Zealand
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 53
Why cant the black queen take the white pawn next the king? Then the bishop takes the king and king takes bishop, ok major disadvantage but it certainly isnt mate. Cheers all.
18th August 2008, 08:28pm
#11
by chessis4coolppl
United States
Member Since: Jun 2007
Member Points: 71

....

18th August 2008, 08:48pm
#12
by normajeanyates
london [often in calcutta india] International
Member Since: Jan 2008
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This is the Daminano defence - good for surprise value against unprepared opponents at blitz or lightning.

18th August 2008, 08:53pm
#13
by agentofchaos
Sydney Australia
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 103

shuttlechess92 wrote:

 I spotted this opening play out: 1.e4  e5    2. Nf3   f6??.  


This opening is known as Damiano's Defense, named after Pedro Damiano in the 16th century, who correctly identified it as a losing opening.

18th August 2008, 09:10pm
#14
by shuttlechess92
California United States
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Damiano is very wise then Smile

18th August 2008, 09:12pm
#15
by Breathing
Charlotte United States
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chqm:

because it is still check from the rook, even if the pawn is taken by the queen.

19th August 2008, 06:55am
#16
by Chess_Lobster
New Jersey United States
Member Since: Jun 2008
Member Points: 60

Yeah the opening (Damiano's Defense) isn't so good, but as mentioned the correct response after Nxe5 is Qe7, skewering the knight and the pawn.  White might even fall into a trap of his own if he tries Qh5+, where g6 is then winning for black!

19th August 2008, 07:21am
#17
by lapin
Katerini Greece
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 1249

lol funny.

19th August 2008, 08:00am
#18
by Fundy992
las vegas United States
Member Since: Jul 2008
Member Points: 1

I haven't ever seen anyone bring out the second pawn ,it's allways the horse.

but great for futer game , thanks

 

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